The Separation between State and Religion

In time we will realize that Democracy is the entitlement of individuals to every right that was in its times alloted to kings. The right to speak and decide, to be treated with decency, to serve and be served by people in a State of “love” that is, to serve with one’s work for the development of ‘life’. To belong to the Kingdom of Human Beings without racial, national, social or academic separations. To love and be loved. To die at the service of the whole and be honored in one’s death, for one’s life and work was legitimately valued. To be graceful and grateful. To have the pride and the humility of being One with the Universe, One with every realm of Existence, One with every living and deceased soul. To treat with dignity and be treated with dignity for One is dignified together with All others and Life itself. To walk the path of compassion, not in the sorrow of guilt but in the pride of being. To take responsability for one’s mistakes and sufferings and stand up again and again like a hero and a heroine and face the struggle that is put at one’s feet and in one’s hands. Millions of people, millions and millions of people might take many generations to realize the consciousness of our humaneness but there is no other dignified path for the human being.

The “work” as I conceive it is psychological and political. Psychology is the connection between the different dimensions within one’s self and Politics is the actualization of that consciousness in our practical lives. Religion is the ceremony that binds the connectedness between the individual and the Universe. The separation between religion, politics and science, the arts and sports is, in the sphere of the social, the reflection of the schizophrenia within the individual and the masses. The dialogue between individuality and the "human" belongs to consciousness. The tendency to develop cults resides in the shortcomings we’are finding in life as it is structured today. “Life” has become the private property of a few priviledged who cannot profit from it because as soon as it is appropriated it stops to be “life” or “life-giving”.

We are all the victims of our own invention and each one is called upon to find solutions. The only problem is believing our selves incapable of finding them. We are now free to use all Systems of knowledge objectively, sharing them without imposing our will on each other. To become objective about our lives means to understand that the institutions that govern its experience are critically important. That we are one with the governments, one with the religious activities that mark its pace, that the arena’s in which we move our bodies and the laboratories in which we explore our possibilities are ALL part and parcel of our own personal responsibility. That WE ARE ONE WITH EACH OTHER AND EVERYTHING AROUND US and acknowledge for ourselves a bond of love in conscious responsibility. That we human beings know ourselves part of each other and are willing and able to act on our behalf for the benefit of each and every individual. That we no longer allow governments, industries, universities or any other institution to run along unchecked by the objective principles of humaneness. That we do not allow gurus to abuse their power or governors to steal the taxes and use them to their personal advantage in detriment of the whole. That we do not allow abuse from anyone anywhere because life is too beautiful to do so and that we are willing to stop the rampant crime with the necessary compassion Conscious knowledge is every individual's right. Conscious action is every individual's duty.

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Friday 21 May 2010

Ton-Elena Finito

145 Ton May 21
you’ve talked about your anger around being “banned” — that’s really beside the point, your anger over being “banned” is in fact only a symptom of a much deeper anger, resentment, frustration and rage within you… that’s what my question to you refers to… what is the source of this hostility you feel ? what is it about elena…? it’s not about me elena, it’s not about a silly blog… these are simply “triggers” that set off your hostility. how long have you carried this anger and hostility ? can you remember back to a time when it did not control you ? was there some precipitating event in your life that went unresolved causing you to feel the frustration and anger ? when did your hostile feelings first gain control over you ? what is your anger about elena ? i know you have abandonment issues… if you look deeply enough you might find that your anger and resentment come from something else to serve an uncounscious purpose… such might be the case in the fear of abandonment…. you mention sadness… maybe the anger is there to protect you from truly feeling your sadness… this is just a “grope in the dark” on my part… obviously it’s up to you to come up with your own understanding of your own psyche… of course if you don’t develop an understanding of the roots of your anger, it will continue to control you. have you examined the roots of your hostility elena ? can you bear to look beneath the surface… or are you satisfied living with symptoms ?



146 Elena

This is amazingly interesting Ton but ever so boring. What's interesting is that you and I seem to be locked on each other's difficulties without seeing our own and what's so boring is that I don't feel your analysis fits the shoe.  


As I've said too many times now if you study my participation in the fofblog recently and our interchanges here I am not as vulnerable as I was after I left the Fellowship and until very recently holding on to the blogs for people as reference, hurting others and being hurt by others and still preffering that to the numbness of the fellowship cult but that is not the case now and I find you so dishonest, but the pity is I don't care anymore. That's what you like? good for you, go practice it with someone else because you are probably the most uninteresting person I've ever met.  


There are a million things here more interesting to talk about than your problems or mine and all you can dig on, post after post is trying to convince me that I have problems. There must be an illness called being stuck in the sphere of personality. Keep convincing yourself Ton but if you've nothing better to say could find some other hobby? You behave like someone who's going or just went through divorce. You don't really seem to have anything good to do with yourself beside finding faults in Elena and that would be a lot more interesting for the fofblog than here, why don't you practice it there, then you can justify yourselves even better and at least you'll be somewhere where you fit?  


While I'm very sorry if you're going through difficulties, I don't think your trying to solve them this way is going to work for you and definitely I'm too old for the game you're playing. I think I've had enough of you for the time being. If you can't really come up with anything more interesting than this endless labyrinth in which you seem so comfortable, I think I'll stop answering your posts. Hope things get better for you. Good luck Ton. Elena
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