The Separation between State and Religion

In time we will realize that Democracy is the entitlement of individuals to every right that was in its times alloted to kings. The right to speak and decide, to be treated with decency, to serve and be served by people in a State of “love” that is, to serve with one’s work for the development of ‘life’. To belong to the Kingdom of Human Beings without racial, national, social or academic separations. To love and be loved. To die at the service of the whole and be honored in one’s death, for one’s life and work was legitimately valued. To be graceful and grateful. To have the pride and the humility of being One with the Universe, One with every realm of Existence, One with every living and deceased soul. To treat with dignity and be treated with dignity for One is dignified together with All others and Life itself. To walk the path of compassion, not in the sorrow of guilt but in the pride of being. To take responsability for one’s mistakes and sufferings and stand up again and again like a hero and a heroine and face the struggle that is put at one’s feet and in one’s hands. Millions of people, millions and millions of people might take many generations to realize the consciousness of our humaneness but there is no other dignified path for the human being.

The “work” as I conceive it is psychological and political. Psychology is the connection between the different dimensions within one’s self and Politics is the actualization of that consciousness in our practical lives. Religion is the ceremony that binds the connectedness between the individual and the Universe. The separation between religion, politics and science, the arts and sports is, in the sphere of the social, the reflection of the schizophrenia within the individual and the masses. The dialogue between individuality and the "human" belongs to consciousness. The tendency to develop cults resides in the shortcomings we’are finding in life as it is structured today. “Life” has become the private property of a few priviledged who cannot profit from it because as soon as it is appropriated it stops to be “life” or “life-giving”.

We are all the victims of our own invention and each one is called upon to find solutions. The only problem is believing our selves incapable of finding them. We are now free to use all Systems of knowledge objectively, sharing them without imposing our will on each other. To become objective about our lives means to understand that the institutions that govern its experience are critically important. That we are one with the governments, one with the religious activities that mark its pace, that the arena’s in which we move our bodies and the laboratories in which we explore our possibilities are ALL part and parcel of our own personal responsibility. That WE ARE ONE WITH EACH OTHER AND EVERYTHING AROUND US and acknowledge for ourselves a bond of love in conscious responsibility. That we human beings know ourselves part of each other and are willing and able to act on our behalf for the benefit of each and every individual. That we no longer allow governments, industries, universities or any other institution to run along unchecked by the objective principles of humaneness. That we do not allow gurus to abuse their power or governors to steal the taxes and use them to their personal advantage in detriment of the whole. That we do not allow abuse from anyone anywhere because life is too beautiful to do so and that we are willing to stop the rampant crime with the necessary compassion Conscious knowledge is every individual's right. Conscious action is every individual's duty.

Tuesday 31 May 2011

Joyful break!

I've been so joyfully busy with the glass workshop that I haven't had time to work on these issues.

http://web.me.com/publicsquare7/Site_3/IluminArte.html

I see you continue to explore what is here, I wonder why you can't share what you find or what you're after.

It is strange to me that you would avoid communicating when in communication is the possibility of verification and in questioning the issues, we clarify our selves about them but it is also a pleasure for me to be spending time with my hands, color and glass.






Monday 23 May 2011

Sovereignty- Elena


This article taken from the fofblog fails to address the main issue of the doomsday prediction: that the whole cult is built on that fear and when it doesn't happen people are already so separated from the "world" that they cannot leave the cult. Those who do were not as brainwashed as those who do not.

I remember Girard saying with joy that it was wonderful that the prediction of the end of the world by Robert Burton had not happened and that that didn't mean anything questionable about Robert, then Robert saying that it was work on vanity for him.  I had given up on the "world" when I joined and thought that we were there to reconstruct our lives consciously so, while I was very glad that it hadn't happened, I was not shocked enough. It did manage to question the whole thing but I was already too invested in it to let go and the investment was in the possibility of reaching a status that would allow me to participate legitimately which was never reached... thankfully.

When I look at all that it is so important to realize that we reflect our selves in the society that surrounds us and the small group of cults gives the members the illusion that they can play a significant part and settle for a second, third or fourth class role in the cult always struggling to get closer and closer to the guru, which in fact never happens because he "instinctively" knows that he cannot give anyone else "sovereignty" or the "cult" will fall apart. The inner circle is in fact conformed by those who are willing to submit their sovereignty and accept their second class condition and in as much as they are willing to do so, the rest of the members are conditioned to accept the hierarchy as they join. It is a "faultless" structure and what is interesting about the structure itself is that if we are to study structures of hierarchy in different contexts, the parallels are too strong to be coincidental.

In the individual, when the formatory apparatus takes charge of life without the presence of I, the instinctive ego takes the lead. Everything "functions" but purely instinctively which, amongst human beings means, for the ego of the individual. The human being is replaced by the hasnamuss. In my understanding of the hasnamuss today, the personality that is developed acts against the self and stunts it so completely that "life" itself is shied away and what is left is the inertia of functioning at its cost: absolutely conditioned by the only status quo within which it can survive and within which it has developed.

The question of one's sovereignty is the real question. When one IS, recognition does not matter but in a world in which people are raised identityless, the struggle for recognition is similar to the struggle of the unwanted lover: the individual needs to be recognized and incorporated if he or she is to participate lawfully and not just submit.

We could well study this in every extreme organization. Within the decadent military it is a common ocurrence in as much as it has become a "life" killing force instead of a "life" protecting force. The only justification for the use of force lies in the protection of life but today force is used rampantly against life. The individual that submits to the military institution in its "killing machine" status, uses his and her formatory apparatus to justify their actions in reference to the immediate structure of the institution and forgetting the human standard: lawfulness and sovereignty.

Since we live in a time in which acts against people's sovereignty have become common in every institution, we have little choice but to submit to the rule or remain jobless, uneducated, identityless, pariahs in a world of slaves.

Within the cult the hasnamuss develops with the cult itself. They are part and parcel of each other and they opt to suicide or kill rather than leave the cult when the critical point is reached. The formatory apparatus takes care of justifying the status quo and goes against everything human to do so. It is not surprising that cult members turn out to be the victims of their own invention.

The sad irony of our times is that it is millions of human beings everywhere who are in cults today and they are themselves victims of the structure of today's society. The options were narrow: the openly "corporate" world or the second class options at their service. Those in the Art, scientific or academic arenas serve those in power if they are to have any success and the few who escape the rule, confirm the rule.

The sad fact about those who opt for the religious path and end up in a cult, is that they were the few who did not wish to submit to the corporate greed and yet ended up being fed to the lions of their own make up.

What these should tells about is that the unconscious mechanisms in our lives are as predetermined as the laws of physics. That we need to be aware of the "life" fulfilling possibilities and the instinctively animal options. In the instinctively animal options, the human being establishes hierarchies like animals do and some men submit to the will and well being of others without there being any guarantee that those in power will protect them like it is natural within animals. The instinctive mechanism is let out amongst humans but that which is lawful amongst animals: that the strongest protect the weakest, is not "natural" amongst men. The strongest amongst men only protect life if they have the consciousness of its value. "Power" today does not guarantee that consciousness but it does guarantee that what is valued is the economic profit for the 2% of the population at the cost of no matter how many people's lives and how much destruction and damage in nature.
These are people behaving like animals would and as perfectly "natural" as it is, it is perfectly inhuman.

Mankind's struggle to establish laws that can protect its humaneness are based on the possibility of keeping the animal within the human at base so that the human within the human can develop. That we each hold two or more natures within our selves is a fact. That we belong to the physical world and share it with all of nature, is a fact. That we can and do behave like animals and denaturalize our humaneness is a fact. That animals are legitimately lawful in the natural world when they behave such but that that behavior amongst human beings is inhuman, is a fact.

We establish laws so as to remind our selves about our human "nature"  and the life that is possible for future generations if survival of the human being can be a reality. Our consciousness shifts with each generation and has to adapt and reformulate  actualizing our humaneness in every step. "Life" is the actualization of consciousness: the practical expression of our selves.

That we submit only to the laws and that the laws submit only to the human, is a must. That the laws that protect life and every individual sovereignty cannot be the manipulating device of a minority in power is a must. That the spirit of the human within each one of us can stand up for itself against all tyranny and take hold of power and the rule of law in its hands, is a must. That we are each a cosmos able to stand up for life, is a reality.

"Life", like a spring of water or the birth of a child is the ability to protect these. That the "work" that we carry out in our lives aims at the continued strengthening of "life" itself for each and every individual, is a must. We live in a times in which our lives are of no human value and without the human value, people and society work for destruction, corruption, exploitation, lovelessness, mercilessness, crime.

That we can stand as people able and willing to love and actualize love as the ruling principle of all life and support that with the Law. The Declaration of Human Rights is no other than a Declaration of Conscious love that we are far from achieving as human beings. These laws cannot be appropriated by any nation and pretend that breaking those laws is lawful outside the nation. Or that those laws do not apply within each and every institution. What we need to come to understand is that "life" has a force of its own to which every individual is a part of. That "life" is not just "my life" but "life" even without me and that we cannot pretend to own all of it in our greed.

"Life" is not only the spring of water and the newborn child but it is also speech, food, community, earth, interaction, participation, connectedness, being, being, being and allowing to be and protecting that inalienable right of each individual's sovereignty. Life is not nearly as much what is there physically but what lives within and outside that physicality. Our bodies are hardly our life, sacred as they are, our life is in the music, the language, the interactions we establish with each other and how that interaction is determined.

The hierarchization of our lives that determines our sovereignty according to our social, racial, national, economic conditions, is enslaving our "lives" and in as much as our lives are enslaved, "life" is weakened. That our right to speak freely is determined by our place in the social hierarchy of no matter what institution hinders the individual's sovereignty and when an individual's sovereignty is hindered the sphere of our selves as human beings is hindered. The individual's microcosmic self corresponds energetically to the human being's macrocosmic self and when an individual human being's sovereignty is hindered, the sphere of the law in the overall human, is weakened. People who are systematically humiliated and abused as human beings without legitimate rights to participate in the socio-economic arena are outside the law and turn to criminals because they have already been outlawed by the nation before they had ever committed a crime.

We are each responsible for each other in as much as the status that we happen to have does not free us from our insertion in the whole. We are victims of crimes that we ourselves allowed to happen directly or indirectly allowing for so many to be outcasted from their sovereign rights as human beings.

Should mankind be mature enough to recognize the reality of sovereign nations and sovereign individuals beyond the nation, it is a fact that we can survive only in as much as we are able to commit our selves to "life". Not life for "our" generation only but life on Earth for human beings of future generations. The mistakes we've made and are making are too powerful to not prompt us to our destruction via the destruction of nature's balance or through nuclear explosions. We do not need anyone to predict the end of the world to realize that we can make it happen our selves, if we continue down the path we've taken in which anyone can make up their own laws within the sphere of power that they can amass and forget the human being.



















When Doomsday Isn’t, Believers Struggle to Cope

Stephanie Pappas, LiveScience Senior Writer
Sat May 21, 10:31 pm ET

If you’re reading this, Harold Camping’s predictions that the end of the world would start Saturday (May 21) failed to pan out.

That’s good news for most of us, but Camping and his followers were looking forward to the end. After all, they believed that they were likely to be among the 200 million souls sent to live in paradise forever. So how do believers cope when their doomsday predictions fail?

It depends, said Lorenzo DiTommaso, a professor of religion at Concordia University in Montreal who studies the history of doomsday predictions.

“If you have a strong leader, the group survives,” DiTommaso told LiveScience. “Sometimes the group falls apart. Most often, the answer given by the group is that the prophecy is true, but the interpretation was wrong.” [Read: Why People Look Forward to the End]

http://www.livescience.com/14179-doomsday-psychology-21-judgment-day-apocalypse.html

In 1994, Camping predicted a September doomsday, but hedged his bets with a question mark. On his FamilyRadio website, Camping wrote that he had misunderstood a key biblical passage, but since that time, biblical evidence for a 2011 end had “greatly solidified.”

Doomsdays without doom
The classic study of “doomsdays gone bad” took place in 1954. A Chicago woman named Dorothy Martin predicted a cataclysmic flood from which a few true believers would be saved by aliens. Martin and her cult, The Seekers, gathered the night before the expected flood to await the flying saucer. Unbeknown to them, however, their group had been infiltrated by psychologist Leon Festinger, who hoped to find out what happens when the rug of people’s beliefs is pulled out from under them.

Festinger’s study, which became the basis of the book “When Prophecy Fails” (Harper-Torchbooks 1956), revealed that as the appointed time passed with no alien visitors, the group sat stunned. But a few hours before dawn, Martin suddenly received a new prophecy, stating that The Seekers had been so devout that God had called off the apocalypse. At that, the group rejoiced — and started calling newspapers to boast of what they’d done.

Eventually, the group fell apart. Martin later changed her name to “Sister Thedra” and continued her prophecies.

Other failed doomsday prophets have struggled to keep their followers in line. One self-proclaimed prophet, Mariana Andrada (later known as Mariana La Loca), preached to a gang of followers in the 1880s in the San Joaquin Valley of California, predicting doomsday by 1886. But Andrada was not consistent with her predictions, and believers began to defect. Trying to keep one family from leaving, Andrada told them one of them would die on the journey. Sure enough, the family’s young son soon fell violently ill and passed away. The family accused Andrada of poisoning him. She was arrested and found not guilty, but never returned to preach to her followers.

Searching for explanations
How Camping’s followers will cope with a failed doomsday prediction depends on the structure of the group, said Steve Hassan, a counseling psychologist and cult expert who runs the online Freedom of Mind Resource Center.

“The more people have connections outside of the group, the more likely it is that they’re going to stop looking to [Camping] as the mouth of God on Earth,” Hassan told LiveScience. “Information control is one of the most important features of mind control.”

In his experience, Hassan said, about a third of believers become disillusioned after a failed prediction, while another third find reason to believe more strongly. The remaining group members fall somewhere in between, he said.

Doomsday groups in history have run a gamut of responses after failed predictions, said Stephen Kent, a sociologist at the University of Alberta who studies new and alternative religions. On occasion, a leader will admit he or she was wrong (Note from qwertyuiop: Burton occasionally would quietly admit that he was a failure as a predictor of doom. But did he really have any other choice? It was a huge elephant in the room for several years.)

Other groups will come up with a face-saving explanation. Some groups may blame themselves, rationalizing that their lack of faith caused the failure, Kent told LiveScience. Other groups blame outside forces and redouble their efforts.

“One of the options is for the group to say, ‘Society wasn’t ready, Jesus felt there weren’t enough people worthy of rapturing. Hence, we’ve got to go out and convert more people,’” Kent said.

After the apocalypse
Often, a failed prediction leads to splinter groups and re-entrenchment. After Baptist preacher William Miller predicted the end of the world on Oct. 22, 1844 — a date thereafter known as “The Great Disappointment” when nothing happened — his followers struggled to explain their mistake. One subset decided that on that date, Jesus had shifted his location in heaven in preparation to return to Earth. This group later became the Seventh-Day Adventist church.

Sociologists and doomsday experts agree that Camping is likely convinced of doomsday rather than perpetuating a hoax or running a scam. A con artist, Hassan said, would never set himself up for failure by giving a firm date.

(Note from qwertyuiop: In Camping’s case, that may be true, but I have my doubts that Burton really believed in his numerous predictions.)

A belief in doomsday gives followers a clear sense of the world and their place in it, Kent said. Those comforting beliefs are difficult to maintain after the world fails to end.

“This could be a fairly sad day for these people,” Kent said. “There will be some greatly disheartened people who may be terribly confused about what didn’t happen.”

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Despite failed prophecies for 1984, 1998, and 2006, Fellowship of Friends cult leader Robert Burton continues to hint that the Fellowship of Friends is an “ark” for a new civilization, and he has hinted that some undefined catastrophe may occur in 2012.

“Theoretically, we will survive it unharmed,” Burton said in recent months.

Sunday 22 May 2011

Chomsky: Bin Laden's Death: Much More to Say



Portrait, Noam Chomsky, 06/15/09. (photo: Sam Lahoz)


Bin Laden's Death: Much More to Say

By Noam Chomsky, Reader Supported News
21 May 11

After the assassination of bin Laden I received such a deluge of requests for comment that I was unable to respond individually, and on May 4 and later I sent an unedited form response instead, not intending for it to be posted, and expecting to write it up more fully and carefully later on. But it was posted, then circulated. It can now be found, reposted,here.

That was followed by a deluge of reactions from all over the world. It is far from a scientific sample of course, but nevertheless, the tendencies may be of some interest. Overwhelmingly, those from the "third world" were on the order of "thanks for saying what we think." There were similar ones from the US, but many others were infuriated, often virtually hysterical, with almost no relation to the actual content of the posted form letter. That was true in particular of the posted or published responses brought to my attention. I have received a few requests to comment on several of these. Frankly, it seems to me superfluous. If there is any interest, I'll nevertheless find some time to do so.

The original letter ends with the comment that "There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about." Here I will fill in some of the gaps, leaving the original otherwise unchanged in all essentials.

Noam Chomsky

May 2011

n May 1, 2011, Osama bin Laden was killed in his virtually unprotected compound by a raiding mission of 79 Navy Seals, who entered Pakistan by helicopter. After many lurid stories were provided by the government and withdrawn, official reports made it increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law, beginning with the invasion itself.
There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 79 commandos facing no opposition - except, they report, from his wife, also unarmed, who they shot in self-defense when she "lunged" at them (according to the White House).
A plausible reconstruction of the events is provided by veteran Middle East correspondent Yochi Dreazen and colleagues in The Atlantic. Dreazen, formerly the military correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, is senior correspondent for the National Journal Group covering military affairs and national security. According to their investigation, White House planning appears not to have considered the option of capturing OBL alive: "The administration had made clear to the military's clandestine Joint Special Operations Command that it wanted bin Laden dead, according to a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the discussions. A high-ranking military officer briefed on the assault said the SEALs knew their mission was not to take him alive."
The authors add: "For many at the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency who had spent nearly a decade hunting bin Laden, killing the militant was a necessary and justified act of vengeance." Furthermore, "Capturing bin Laden alive would have also presented the administration with an array of nettlesome legal and political challenges." Better, then, to assassinate him, dumping his body into the sea without the autopsy considered essential after a killing, whether considered justified or not – an act that predictably provoked both anger and skepticism in much of the Muslim world.
As the Atlantic inquiry observes, "The decision to kill bin Laden outright was the clearest illustration to date of a little-noticed aspect of the Obama administration's counterterror policy. The Bush administration captured thousands of suspected militants and sent them to detention camps in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay. The Obama administration, by contrast, has focused on eliminating individual terrorists rather than attempting to take them alive." That is one significant difference between Bush and Obama. The authors quote former West German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, who "told German TV that the U.S. raid was 'quite clearly a violation of international law' and that bin Laden should have been detained and put on trial," contrasting Schmidt with US Attorney General Eric Holder, who "defended the decision to kill bin Laden although he didn't pose an immediate threat to the Navy SEALs, telling a House panel on Tuesday that the assault had been 'lawful, legitimate and appropriate in every way'."
The disposal of the body without autopsy was also criticized by allies. The highly regarded British barrister Geoffrey Robertson, who supported the intervention and opposed the execution largely on pragmatic grounds, nevertheless described Obama's claim that "justice was done" as an "absurdity" that should have been obvious to a former professor of constitutional law. Pakistan law "requires a colonial inquest on violent death, and international human rights law insists that the 'right to life' mandates an inquiry whenever violent death occurs from government or police action. The U.S. is therefore under a duty to hold an inquiry that will satisfy the world as to the true circumstances of this killing." Robertson adds that "The law permits criminals to be shot in self-defense if they (or their accomplices) resist arrest in ways that endanger those striving to apprehend them. They should, if possible, be given the opportunity to surrender, but even if they do not come out with their hands up, they must be taken alive if that can be achieved without risk. Exactly how bin Laden came to be 'shot in the head' (especially if it was the back of his head, execution-style) therefore requires explanation. Why a hasty 'burial at sea' without a post mortem, as the law requires?"
Robertson attributes the murder to "America's obsessive belief in capital punishment—alone among advanced nations—[which] is reflected in its rejoicing at the manner of bin Laden's demise." For example, Nation columnist Eric Alterman writes that "The killing of Osama bin Laden was a just and necessary undertaking."
Robertson usefully reminds us that "It was not always thus. When the time came to consider the fate of men much more steeped in wickedness than Osama bin Laden - namely the Nazi leadership - the British government wanted them hanged within six hours of capture. President Truman demurred, citing the conclusion of Justice Robert Jackson that summary execution 'would not sit easily on the American conscience or be remembered by our children with pride ... the only course is to determine the innocence or guilt of the accused after a hearing as dispassionate as the times will permit and upon a record that will leave our reasons and motives clear'."
The editors of the Daily Beast comment that "The joy is understandable, but to many outsiders, unattractive. It endorses what looks increasingly like a cold-blooded assassination as the White House is now forced to admit that Osama bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot twice in the head."
In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress "suspects." In June 2002, FBI head Robert Mueller, in what the Washington Post described as "among his most detailed public comments on the origins of the attacks," could say only that "investigators believe the idea of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon came from al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan, the actual plotting was done in Germany, and the financing came through the United Arab Emirates from sources in Afghanistan.... We think the masterminds of it were in Afghanistan, high in the al Qaeda leadership." What the FBI believed and thought in June 2002 they didn't know eight months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence. Thus it is not true, as the President claimed in his White House statement, that "We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda."
There has never been any reason to doubt what the FBI believed in mid-2002, but that leaves us far from the proof of guilt required in civilized societies – and whatever the evidence might be, it does not warrant murdering a suspect who could, it seems, have been easily apprehended and brought to trial. Much the same is true of evidence provided since. Thus the 9/11 Commission provided extensive circumstantial evidence of bin Laden's role in 9/11, based primarily on what it had been told about confessions by prisoners in Guantanamo. It is doubtful that much of that would hold up in an independent court, considering the ways confessions were elicited. But in any event, the conclusions of a congressionally authorized investigation, however convincing one finds them, plainly fall short of a sentence by a credible court, which is what shifts the category of the accused from suspect to convicted. There is much talk of bin Laden's "confession," but that was a boast, not a confession, with as much credibility as my "confession" that I won the Boston marathon. The boast tells us a lot about his character, but nothing about his responsibility for what he regarded as a great achievement, for which he wanted to take credit.
Again, all of this is, transparently, quite independent of one's judgments about his responsibility, which seemed clear immediately, even before the FBI inquiry, and still does.
It is worth adding that bin Laden's responsibility was recognized in much of the Muslim world, and condemned. One significant example is the distinguished Lebanese cleric Sheikh Fadlallah, greatly respected by Hizbollah and Shia groups generally, outside Lebanon as well. He too had been targeted for assassination: by a truck bomb outside a mosque, in a CIA-organized operation in 1985. He escaped, but 80 others were killed, mostly women and girls, as they left the mosque – one of those innumerable crimes that do not enter the annals of terror because of the fallacy of "wrong agency." Sheikh Fadlallah sharply condemned the 9/11 attacks, as did many other leading figures in the Muslim world, within the Jihadi movement as well. Among others, the head of Hizbollah, Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah, sharply condemned bin Laden and Jihadi ideology.
One of the leading specialists on the Jihadi movement, Fawaz Gerges, suggests that the movement might have been split at that time had the US exploited the opportunity instead of mobilizing the movement, particularly by the attack on Iraq, a great boon to bin Laden, which led to a sharp increase in terror, as intelligence agencies had anticipated. That conclusion was confirmed by the former head of Britain's domestic intelligence agency MI5 at the Chilcot hearings investigating the background for the war. Confirming other analyses, she testified that both British and US intelligence were aware that Saddam posed no serious threat and that the invasion was likely to increase terror; and that the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan had radicalized parts of a generation of Muslims who saw the military actions as an "attack on Islam." As is often the case, security was not a high priority for state action.
It might be instructive to ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush's compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic (after proper burial rites, of course). Uncontroversially, he is not a "suspect" but the "decider" who gave the orders to invade Iraq - that is, to commit the "supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole" (quoting the Nuremberg Tribunal) for which Nazi criminals were hanged: in Iraq, the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country and the national heritage, and the murderous sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region. Equally uncontroversially, these crimes vastly exceed anything attributed to bin Laden.
To say that all of this is uncontroversial, as it is, is not to imply that it is not denied. The existence of flat earthers does not change the fact that, uncontroversially, the earth is not flat. Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Stalin and Hitler were responsible for horrendous crimes, though loyalists deny it. All of this should, again, be too obvious for comment, and would be, except in an atmosphere of hysteria so extreme that it blocks rational thought.
Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Bush and associates did commit the "supreme international crime," the crime of aggression, at least if we take the Nuremberg Tribunal seriously. The crime of aggression was defined clearly enough by Justice Robert Jackson, Chief of Counsel for the United States at Nuremberg, reiterated in an authoritative General Assembly resolution. An "aggressor," Jackson proposed to the Tribunal in his opening statement, is a state that is the first to commit such actions as "Invasion of its armed forces, with or without a declaration of war, of the territory of another State...." No one, even the most extreme supporter of the aggression, denies that Bush and associates did just that.
We might also do well to recall Jackson's eloquent words at Nuremberg on the principle of universality: "If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us." And elsewhere: "We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well."
It is also clear that alleged intentions are irrelevant. Japanese fascists apparently did believe that by ravaging China they were laboring to turn it into an "earthly paradise." We don't know whether Hitler believed that he was defending Germany from the "wild terror" of the Poles, or was taking over Czechoslovakia to protect its population from ethnic conflict and provide them with the benefits of a superior culture, or was saving the glories of the civilization of the Greeks from barbarians of East and West, as his acolytes claimed (Martin Heidegger). And it's even conceivable that Bush and company believed that they were protecting the world from destruction by Saddam's nuclear weapons. All irrelevant, though ardent loyalists on all sides may try to convince themselves otherwise.
We are left with two choices: either Bush and associates are guilty of the "supreme international crime" including all the evils that follow, crimes that go vastly beyond anything attributed to bin Laden; or else we declare that the Nuremberg proceedings were a farce and that the allies were guilty of judicial murder. Again, that is entirely independent of the question of the guilt of those charged: established by the Nuremberg Tribunal in the case of the Nazi criminals, plausibly surmised from the outset in the case of bin Laden.
A few days before the bin Laden assassination, Orlando Bosch died peacefully in Florida, where he resided along with his terrorist accomplice Luis Posada Carilles, and many others. After he was accused of dozens of terrorist crimes by the FBI, Bosch was granted a presidential pardon by Bush I over the objections of the Justice Department, which found the conclusion "inescapable that it would be prejudicial to the public interest for the United States to provide a safe haven for Bosch. "The coincidence of deaths at once calls to mind the Bush II doctrine, which has "already become a de facto rule of international relations," according to the noted Harvard international relations specialist Graham Allison. The doctrine revokes "the sovereignty of states that provide sanctuary to terrorists," Allison writes, referring to the pronouncement of Bush II that "those who harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves," directed to the Taliban. Such states, therefore, have lost their sovereignty and are fit targets for bombing and terror; for example, the state that harbored Bosch and his associate - not to mention some rather more significant candidates. When Bush issued this new "de facto rule of international relations," no one seemed to notice that he was calling for invasion and destruction of the US and murder of its criminal presidents.
None of this is problematic, of course, if we reject Justice Jackson's principle of universality, and adopt instead the principle that the US is self-immunized against international law and conventions - as, in fact, the government has frequently made very clear, an important fact, much too little understood.
It is also worth thinking about the name given to the operation: Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound that few seem able to perceive that the White House is glorifying bin Laden by calling him "Geronimo" - the leader of courageous resistance to the invaders who sought to consign his people to the fate of "that hapless race of native Americans, which we are exterminating with such merciless and perfidious cruelty, among the heinous sins of this nation, for which I believe God will one day bring [it] to judgement," in the words of the great grand strategist John Quincy Adams, the intellectual architect of manifest destiny, long after his own contributions to these sins had passed. Some did comprehend, not surprisingly. The remnants of that hapless race protested vigorously. Choice of the name is reminiscent of the ease with which we name our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Blackhawk, Tomahawk, ... We might react differently if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes "Jew" and "Gypsy".
The examples mentioned would fall under the category "American exceptionalism," were it not for the fact that easy suppression of one's own crimes is virtually ubiquitous among powerful states, at least those that are not defeated and forced to acknowledge reality. Other current illustrations are too numerous to mention. To take just one, of great current significance, consider Obama's terror weapons (drones) in Pakistan. Suppose that during the 1980s, when they were occupying Afghanistan, the Russians had carried out targeted assassinations in Pakistan aimed at those who were financing, arming and training the insurgents – quite proudly and openly. For example, targeting the CIA station chief in Islamabad, who explained that he "loved" the "noble goal" of his mission: to "kill Soviet Soldiers ... not to liberate Afghanistan." There is no need to imagine the reaction, but there is a crucial distinction: that was them, this is us.
What are the likely consequences of the killing of bin Laden? For the Arab world, it will probably mean little. He had long been a fading presence, and in the past few months was eclipsed by the Arab Spring. His significance in the Arab world is captured by the headline in the New York Times for an op-ed by Middle East/al Qaeda specialist Gilles Kepel; "Bin Laden was Dead Already." Kepel writes that few in the Arab world are likely to care. That headline might have been dated far earlier, had the US not mobilized the Jihadi movement by the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, as suggested by the intelligence agencies and scholarship. As for the Jihadi movement, within it bin Laden was doubtless a venerated symbol, but apparently did not play much more of a role for this "network of networks," as analysts call it, which undertake mostly independent operations.
The most immediate and significant consequences are likely to be in Pakistan. There is much discussion of Washington's anger that Pakistan didn't turn over bin Laden. Less is said about the fury in Pakistan that the US invaded their territory to carry out a political assassination. Anti-American fervor had already reached a very high peak in Pakistan, and these events are likely to exacerbate it.
Pakistan is the most dangerous country on earth, also the world's fastest growing nuclear power, with a huge arsenal. It is held together by one stable institution, the military. One of the leading specialists on Pakistan and its military, Anatol Lieven, writes that "if the US ever put Pakistani soldiers in a position where they felt that honour and patriotism required them to fight America, many would be very glad to do so." And if Pakistan collapsed, an "absolutely inevitable result would be the flow of large numbers of highly trained ex-soldiers, including explosive experts and engineers, to extremist groups." That is the primary threat he sees of leakage of fissile materials to Jihadi hands, a horrendous eventuality.
The Pakistani military have already been pushed to the edge by US attacks on Pakistani sovereignty. One factor is the drone attacks in Pakistan that Obama escalated immediately after the killing of bin Laden, rubbing salt in the wounds. But there is much more, including the demand that the Pakistani military cooperate in the US war against the Afghan Taliban, whom the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis, the military included, see as fighting a just war of resistance against an invading army, according to Lieven.
The bin Laden operation could have been the spark that set off a conflagration, with dire consequences, particularly if the invading force had been compelled to fight its way out, as was anticipated. Perhaps the assassination was perceived as an "act of vengeance," as Robertson concludes. Whatever the motive was, it could hardly have been security. As in the case of the "supreme international crime" in Iraq, the bin Laden assassination illustrates that security is often not a high priority for state action, contrary to received doctrine.
There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about.

Comments  

+39# Activista 2011-05-21 19:47
Great analysis by Chomsky - no wonder that "experds" do not want to debate or comment professor - there is much logic there.
And media are censoring US dissidents - another analogy with totalitarian systems.
It would be nice to nominate Chomsky for the Nobel Peace price -
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+4# tomo 2011-05-21 22:05
Hear! Hear! Activista. So true about running from Chomsky. On the PBS NewsHour years ago, the moderator (Jim Lehrer, I think) did all he could to get Chomsky to "play nice within the sandbox"--answer only the questions as asked, and to suffer an approving pat on the head when he gave good answers. Chomsky of course had come to call it as he saw it. Never got invited back, I think. And Charlie Rose wasted a whole hour asking Chomsky questions and then, almost without a breath, telling Chomsky what he was sure Chomsky's answers would be if only he (Rose) would shut up and listen. (Funny--if it weren't so sad.)
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+1# rock 2011-05-21 22:18
Guess the "Nobel Peace price" comes pretty cheap?
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-23# Syd 2011-05-21 20:08
Would Mr Chomsky have felt the same if Hitler was assassinated by British and American team?
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+9# thinkahol 2011-05-21 21:02
That seems to be the obvious implication. Crazy to think that some people might think that the law is more important than vengeance, i know.
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+4# ER444 2011-05-22 00:06
Heh, you must be a real history buff. Ever heard of the Nuremberg trials? It is all about principles here an that IS important. What used to make America different was its standing up for principles in the face of tyranny. We have lost those principles, and Mr. Obama should give the Nobel Peace Prize back. Neither he nor America deserves it.
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+1# SeriousCitizen 2011-05-22 00:41
Hitler was a military commander of a formal national army, against which there was a declared war. If he had been successfully targeted during WWII, he would have been a military casualty. I am sure Chomsky would have cheered. If Hitler had been assassinated in 1935, I am sure Chomsky would have called that an illegal act.
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+4# Ralph Averill 2011-05-22 03:18
"Would Mr Chomsky have felt the same if Hitler was assassinated by British and American team?"
Syd, you seem to have missed Mr. Chomsky's very valid point, also made by Michael Moore, that the Nazis, whose crimes were far, far worse than anything al Qaeda claims to have done, were put on trial at Nuremburg, at the insistence of American president Harry Truman. Back then, America was a nation that respected international law; we had just fought and won, at enormous cost, a world war to uphold international law. That nation, apparently, no longer exists.
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+1# davidfhayes 2011-05-22 04:49
Quoting
Would Mr Chomsky have felt the same if Hitler was assassinated by British and American team?


I think he would.
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-41# rock 2011-05-21 20:20
The most hilarious part of Noam's ramblings here, other than a complete lack of compassion for Bin Laden's thousands of victims, is that fact that everyone who spouts a view he agrees with is "eminent," "distinguished," or "highly respected."

At least he appears to have the sense to realize that the leakage of fissile materials to Jihadi hands would be a horrendous eventuality.
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+6# thinkahol 2011-05-21 21:25
It's rather revealing that you like many others assume bin Laden's guilt. So it should be of no concern to you that even on the FBI's most wanted page he isn't wanted in connection with 9/11 (because there is no evidence linking him to 9/11 (Go ahead and ask the FBI yourself, others have)).

Beside the obvious fact there isn't any lack of compassion exhibited for 9/11 victims anyway, only the fruitful comparison to demonstrably, vastly greater crimes committed by the Bush regime and continued by the present one. Where is your compassion for those victims (of at least an order of magnitude greater quantity)?

No appreciates any kind of condescension, even the understanding kind. However if you believe what you've written you're clearly steeped in the most popular propaganda.

Consider these links my gauntlet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkcxVdDSAY4
http://www.openfilm.com/videos/psywar
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+2# Ralph Averill 2011-05-22 03:26
"At least he appears to have the sense to realize that the leakage of fissile materials to Jihadi hands would be a horrendous eventuality."
Chomsky also made the point that our incursion into Pakistan to assassinate bin Laden, along with drone attacks on Pakistani territory, could very well turn the Pakistani military against the US and bring about that "horrendous eventuality" of fissile material falling into Jihadi hands.
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-24# Tim Sullivan 2011-05-21 20:34
Noam must be a lot of fun at parties.
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+4# tomo 2011-05-21 22:10
God, Tim--if bad days come (and they seem to be upon us), you at least will deserve them. What's your idea of party--drinking yourself silly, and then puking? Bet, too, you voted for Bush--a guy you can imagine drinking a beer with. Now that guy was a real barrel of fun!
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+14# Activista 2011-05-21 21:04
"in June 2002 they didn't know eight months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence"
of course the US war propaganda reported only the US part - that asked for Bin Laden, and that Taliban refused.
Do not see ANY of Chomsky adoration for Osama, just pragmatic facts. I doubt that Osama was center of planning directly 911 - likely one of his "generals".
It also looks like US military machine is desperately seeking new enemy/markets for their "services" - and Pakistan is so profitable for the drones made in USA (on the Chinese credit card)
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+11# acomfort 2011-05-21 21:12
Have we forgotten how/when to use the word alleged? When did everyone start taking as truth anything the US officials say, even with no evidence?

It is ALLEGED that Osama Bin Laden was killed by Navy Seals. Only ALLEGED as there is no evidence.

Actually there is more evidence that OBL died at the end of 2001 than in 2011. . .Try: http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15601

acomfort
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0# CommonSense 2011-05-22 05:18
Thanks, I was about to give up on this site as another Plato's Cave Allegory. In an age of thorough global communications and travel, the ignorance (or apparent ignorance I should say) of most people concerning the propaganda that surrounds them is truly appalling.
The evidence that 'former' CIA asset Osama bin Laden died in 2001-02 makes the 2011 scenario look like a Saturday morning cartoon show. The one linchpin of the house of cards being (the logical fallacies of) Appeal to Authority and (sled dog) Bandwagon.
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+3# Tara Margolin 2011-05-21 21:28
thank you Mr Chomsky for bringing the true voice of American exceptionalism, that being the very ideas upon which we were created, into clear focus amongst the madness of the contrived War on Terror...
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+2# koolmuse 2011-05-21 21:30
There are significant differences between the Nazi war criminals and Al qadia. For one thing the Nazis had surrendered and the war was over. That is not the case here.
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+3# koolmuse 2011-05-21 21:39
Also Hitler's body was "disappeared", evidence shows by the Soviets, so that there could be no memorial or shrine around which future generations could rally and reignite the Nazi cause.

With Bin laden, given the religious zeal of Islamic Jihadists, a shrine to he and his martyrdom would likely to be a very significant rallying point for years to come.
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+2# koolmuse 2011-05-21 21:47
As to the matter of killing him, instead of capture....it was wise even if of questionable legality....But Osama was an active combatant by his own account...true or not....and in the darkness and uncertainty the safety of themselves and their fellows must come first to the troops.
Chomsky wasn't in the room with them, so who is he to question their veracity?
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+1# koolmuse 2011-05-21 21:51
Bin laden was likely "not guilty by reason of insanity"...and who could argue with that using our Western standards of justice?....and btw...Bush was just as deserving of such an ignominious end....his crimes for which he's never been even threatened with justice....are...as Chomsky said much greater.
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+1# koolmuse 2011-05-21 21:55
Then there is the question of Pakistan's sovereignty. Well they gave up a certain amount of that when they took America's money on the promise to fight Al qaida and terrorism as allies...and here Obama found Bin laden right in their midst.
So I guess the first thing they'd have to admit nobody knew....and explain how that could be before they could make much of a case of being violated.
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+1# koolmuse 2011-05-21 21:58
In war, you try to kill the other general (as US Grant mentioned was always his goal.. Osama was their general. Take him out and you weaken the entire war effort... There is no indication that Osama tried to surrender. In fact it seems he fled into a room where weapons were found.
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+2# koolmuse 2011-05-21 22:01
I oppose violence, war and the death penalty. I support American justice which Bush largely voided during his 8 years. But Bin laden was a murderous mad dog....and there are times when you "shoot first and ask questions later." This was one of those times.
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0# tomo 2011-05-21 22:23
One reason I wish bin Laden had been kept alive is perhaps one reason he was so peremptorily dispatched. He might have shed light on how the U.S. response had been choreographed to accommodate the attack. Just as we had broken the message code of the Japanese before Pearl Harbor, so we had excellent intelligence coming out of Yemen well in advance of 9/11.
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+1# vet 2011-05-21 23:21
To all those who would apologize for taking out OBL. Where were you on September 11, 2001? Where were you during World War II and subsequently the Korean War?
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+3# futhark 2011-05-21 23:34
A dead Osama bin Laden provided the ritual object for a propaganda blood feast of appalling magnitude and could tell no tales.

A live Osama bin Laden may well have spilled some beans that those orchestrating the "War on Terror" may well wish had remained in the can.

In any event, the cycle of obfuscation, lies, hatred, and murder will certainly continue.
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0# SeriousCitizen 2011-05-22 00:51
In the USA, the militarists usually wrap themselves in Christianity. Lots of reference to God, lots of prayers. But they seem to avoid thinking about The Golden Rule. The Bush/Obama administration doctrine of extra-judicial killing of anyone we imagine might be planning to attack the USA, means that we expect and approve foreign nations sending assassins here to kill anyone they imagine might be planning to attack their country. Chomsky made a factual case against Bush, for war crimes that he actually did. But the US doctrine extends to killing people we imagine might, in the future, do us harm. The convicting evidence is our imagination. For example, we are now trying to kill Gaddafi because we imagine that he might slaughter civilians. (Actually, of course, we want to control Libyan oil so that Chinese and Russians cannot get it.)
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0# Riley1 2011-05-22 01:26
Rock: Oh so blind who cannot see. I lost my uncle in the 9/11 tragedy. I hold GWB and his fellow war criminals solely responsible. He single handed set in motion the consequences that caused the tragedy. I want to see him and his fellow collaborators with collective responsibility to stand trial for war crimes and the murder of my uncle.
If you want to criticise Chomsky do so with reason and logic. The man is beyond your ability for cogent reasoned thought. Your argument holds nothing of substance or reason. You shoot off at tangents. Your scribble wasted space here. Neo conservative apologists like you are two a penny and worthless commentators on serious issues primarily because of your limited understanding such issues are beyond your ability to think clearly on the subject raised for debate here.
Your scribbling showed a total lack of clarity. Chomsky's analysis is faultless
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+2# abdullahiedward 2011-05-22 02:29
When Saddam was captured it was originally reported that he would be tried for two specific crimes:- the gassing to death of over 5,000 Iraqi citizens in one village AND the execution of 147 villagers in another. The order of the prosecution of these two cases was determined by the USA. I say all that to say this: - 1) the involvement of Saddam, as I understand it, was that he signed the death warrants for each of them. This was his function in the order of things. Much the same as it was for G.W. Bush to sign the death warrants of all those executed in Texas when he was governor. 2) The gas used to kill the 5,000 other villagers was supplied by the USA and the debate on this issue wouldn't present the US in a favorable light if it was put forward by the defense in the course of the trial.
Finally, it would be interesting to learn just why the USA supplied these "Weapons of Mass Destruction" if they were so obviously opposed to using them, as they appear to be in the ex-post-facto arguments they pontificate about today.
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0# sebouhian 2011-05-22 03:03
the media coverage of the hilarity that followed the President's message, reminds me of the public executions in England attended by families wildly rooting for every dramatic second of the death throes. we all owe Professor Chomsky a sad "thank you" for reminding us that murder is a crime of conscience regardless of legalities and "explanations," which simply add to the horror of the act. rationalization s regardless of even when ordered by a President.
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+1# Aaron Tovish 2011-05-22 03:47
Prediction: within weeks a rumor will take hold that the US faked his death (stun gun, whatever) and are holding bin Laden in a secret prison, torturing him to divulge co-conspirators (and that he is bravely resisting). Without hard evidence to the contrary, this 'wishful thinking' is bound to take root.
More to say:
(1) Justice is complicated; extrajudicial assassination is simple. After a war one has the luxury of time. In a war, the temptation to cut corners is huge. But succumbing to that temptation is never a right.
(2) I think the main reason for the assassination was that they could not be absolutely sure they would get him out of Pakistan alive. If anything went wrong at the compound or in the return to base and bin Laden had escaped alive, it would disaster of unprecedented proportions for US prestige. In fact, one helicopter had exploded open landing at the compound -- possibly alerting Pakistani forces. I suspect that if there had been any intention of bring bin Laden out alive, they were abandoned at that moment.
How many movies have you watched where the villain can't stop gloating in front of his victim-to-be, giving the vicitm's rescuers just enough time to come to his aid? They did not want to make that mistake: shot the guy and get it over with.
to be continued..
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+1# Aaron Tovish 2011-05-22 03:50
... continued from previous posting:
(3) I think equating the assassination with an 'invasion' is way off the mark. At most, it was an incursion -- not as big a deal under international law. It could also fall under the right of reprisal if it could be asserted that Pakistan had allowed terrorists to hurt US citizens, property, etc. If the US had experience with Pakistanis misusing shared intelligence to the benefit of terrorists (which seems to be the case), it is understandable that they acted unilaterally. In my view it would have been better if the US government had announced long ago that no matter where it tracked down bin Laden, it would go after him on its own if there was the slightest suspicion that informing local authorities would 'let the cat out of the bag.' This should not have become a narrowly US-Pakistan thing.
(4) Finally, I think Noam misses the point of naming weapons (or baseball teams) after American Indians. It is actually a token of respect for their combat prowess. So the proper analogy would be calling a weapon an 'Israelite' or a 'Slingshot'. Regarding Geronimo, it is worth recalling that he was taken alive. He died brokenhearted in Florida, far from his beloved homeland.
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+1# richierc@optonline.net 2011-05-22 04:03
Thank you r#acomfort alleged claims of the latest death of Bin Laden by a group with a history of lying that is a US President, The Military, and the CIA. We have been lied to about the military target of Hiroshima, the JFK assassination, 9/11 Crime, the war on Iraq, Gulf of Tomkin and now so many respond with out skepticism, giving Obama the benefit of doubt, I can't.
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0# rf 2011-05-22 04:05
Osama's death is evidence of a tragedy...that being a middle eastern man with obvious leadership talents taking the road of violence. Imagine what Osama could have accomplished if he had chosen the path taken by Dr. King in this country!
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0# carsten byrn 2011-05-22 04:13
This Seal team can hit a fly in the right eye and on top of this he was unarmed, so of course Bin Laden was taken alive. You don´t kill someone who knows where Mullah Omar and Al Zawairi are without torturing the information out of him. So you drop a sack of potatoes in the Arab Sea, and then he doesn´t exist anymore and you can start the waterboarding. When you have the information you want you just make him disappear.
And what if he will not say anything? Come on! Give me Dick Cheney and an electric drill and after half an hour he will sign that he is president of the gay community in San Francisco.
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0# Vegan_Girl 2011-05-22 04:47
Noam Chomsky is a national treasure.
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0# isittoolate? 2011-05-22 05:20
No matter how you view Mr. Chomsky, the sad state of affairs in America is reflected in the fact that this type of discourse and debate should be held on the floor of Congress. We get what we deserve - politicians who are incapable of logical, intellectual thought!
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0# louis burner 2011-05-22 06:24
They ordered him executed because they didn't want him put on trial, where he would have confessed to being a CIA asset. He had too much to tell and that was why he was executed (if