The Separation between State and Religion

In time we will realize that Democracy is the entitlement of individuals to every right that was in its times alloted to kings. The right to speak and decide, to be treated with decency, to serve and be served by people in a State of “love” that is, to serve with one’s work for the development of ‘life’. To belong to the Kingdom of Human Beings without racial, national, social or academic separations. To love and be loved. To die at the service of the whole and be honored in one’s death, for one’s life and work was legitimately valued. To be graceful and grateful. To have the pride and the humility of being One with the Universe, One with every realm of Existence, One with every living and deceased soul. To treat with dignity and be treated with dignity for One is dignified together with All others and Life itself. To walk the path of compassion, not in the sorrow of guilt but in the pride of being. To take responsability for one’s mistakes and sufferings and stand up again and again like a hero and a heroine and face the struggle that is put at one’s feet and in one’s hands. Millions of people, millions and millions of people might take many generations to realize the consciousness of our humaneness but there is no other dignified path for the human being.

The “work” as I conceive it is psychological and political. Psychology is the connection between the different dimensions within one’s self and Politics is the actualization of that consciousness in our practical lives. Religion is the ceremony that binds the connectedness between the individual and the Universe. The separation between religion, politics and science, the arts and sports is, in the sphere of the social, the reflection of the schizophrenia within the individual and the masses. The dialogue between individuality and the "human" belongs to consciousness. The tendency to develop cults resides in the shortcomings we’are finding in life as it is structured today. “Life” has become the private property of a few priviledged who cannot profit from it because as soon as it is appropriated it stops to be “life” or “life-giving”.

We are all the victims of our own invention and each one is called upon to find solutions. The only problem is believing our selves incapable of finding them. We are now free to use all Systems of knowledge objectively, sharing them without imposing our will on each other. To become objective about our lives means to understand that the institutions that govern its experience are critically important. That we are one with the governments, one with the religious activities that mark its pace, that the arena’s in which we move our bodies and the laboratories in which we explore our possibilities are ALL part and parcel of our own personal responsibility. That WE ARE ONE WITH EACH OTHER AND EVERYTHING AROUND US and acknowledge for ourselves a bond of love in conscious responsibility. That we human beings know ourselves part of each other and are willing and able to act on our behalf for the benefit of each and every individual. That we no longer allow governments, industries, universities or any other institution to run along unchecked by the objective principles of humaneness. That we do not allow gurus to abuse their power or governors to steal the taxes and use them to their personal advantage in detriment of the whole. That we do not allow abuse from anyone anywhere because life is too beautiful to do so and that we are willing to stop the rampant crime with the necessary compassion Conscious knowledge is every individual's right. Conscious action is every individual's duty.

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Saturday 1 October 2011

Official Statement from Wall Street!

Here are the heroes of today. They are imprisoning and killing many people in the arab world because they participated in such movements, what will the american status quo do to stop them?

It's strange to see all these things happening after wishing them to do so for so long. Will the people question and pull down fake power before ex-fellowshipcult members do anything to close it down?
For how long will they watch people getting physically and psychologically raped and do nothing serious about it?


FIRST ‘OFFICIAL’ STATEMENT FROM THE OCCUPY WALL STREET MOVEMENT


This was unanimously voted on by all members of Occupy Wall Street last night, around 8pm, Sept 29. It is our first official document for release. We have three more underway, that will likely be released in the upcoming days: 1) A declaration of demands. 2) Principles of Solidarity 3) Documentation on how to form your own Direct Democracy Occupation Group. This is a living document. you can receive an official press copy of the latest version by emailing c2anycga@gmail.com.
Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.
As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.
They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.
They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.
They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.*
To the people of the world,
We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.
Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.
To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.
Join us and make your voices heard!
*These grievances are not all-inclusive.
Via reddit
Posted by Richard Metzger | 63 Comments
COMMENTS:
Sep 30, 2011
Paul Morris says:
I think these folks are wonderful and noble and all, but good lord, this wordy skreed has the revolutionary power of a laundry list.  I had to smile at the post scriptum. It might as well have said “Additional grievances available on request.”
Sep 30, 2011
Atomic Femme says:
We are with you.  We are ready!!!
Sep 30, 2011
ifthenwhy says:
Man, I really can’t stop laughing..
This reminds me of the Revolutionaries from Woody Allen’s “Bananas.”
Except this is much more comical.
Sep 30, 2011
fcr says:
ifthenwhy:
choke on your laugh while this movement becomes unstoppable
Sep 30, 2011
mawa says:
Hello!  Arent there Forbes lists for the top %.00001 dynastic aristocrats?  Arent there Google maps?  Arent there flash mobs?  Arent there public records that list the board of directors for the top 500 corporations?  Arent there Google maps?  Arent there flash mobs?  500 people sitting on a street may have one impact.  500 people showing up at some ones house might have another.  Then your list might get more specific, and have more of a narrative and more of an impact…  peace ya’ll
Sep 30, 2011
Noah Nelson says:
Hey Paul Morris and ifthenwhy:
Ever read the Declaration of Independence?
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
Now tell me that didn’t look like a washing and sundries list to the Redcoats.
How about the Declaration of the Rights of Man from the French Revolution?
I’m sure the fine folks at Versailles had some hearty, hearty laughs over that one.
You see comedy. I see classical manifesto construction.
Sep 30, 2011
Lacy says:
They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. (incentivized by government policies)
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. (granted by government officials)
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. (interesting)
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization. (even more interesting, but I’ll play along: alongside government subsidies of farming)
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless nonhuman animals, and actively hide these practices. (non-human animals? heh)
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions. (I hear working conditions in the financial service industry are abysmal compared to historic standards)
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right. (incentivized by government policies)
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. (yes, because we all want to pay the costs of PhD students doing menial labor)
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility. (I’m down with you here.  They should be responsible for their actions.  Nothing special to them though.)
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance. (Do you seriously think financial firms are the most qualified to be deciding which health care plan is right for you?  The problem here is the way government incentivizes health care.)
They have sold our privacy as a commodity. (ok, which industry hasn’t?)
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. (ah, yes cause they control the military and police… wait, no, that’s government again.)
They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit. (yes, I had a mutual fund once, it was recalled along with my Toyota and social security check)
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. (nope. government officials have the final say in economic policy too.)
They have donated large sums of money to politicians supposed to be regulating them. (yep.  And then the politicians make all these decisions that you seem to be upset with.)
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil. (yes, cause if alternative energy were the cash cow that everybody knows it is the last group of people to try to exploit that would be those lazy bastards on wall st.)
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantive profit. (viagra cock block!)
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit. (and the regulators have let them slide.  boo!)
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media. (are you also upset with the way government limits access to spectrum?)
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt. (that’s f’d up man!)
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. (“colony earth, just a bunch of ants in wall streets pants”)
They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. (f’d up too. they really seem to be everywhere.)
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. (is it just me, or does it feel like your just listing all your complaints about everything in this list?)
———
P.S.  You might want to take the comments of dissonance seriously here.  It’s possible your message is not as tight as it could be if you’d like it to succeed.
P.S.S.  Beautiful photo up top!
Sep 30, 2011
Kate K Milo says:
I’ve noticed plenty of people are willing to pick apart this document, but the fact of the matter is that everything it says is true.  AND nothing will change until enough of us trust each other to make these changes happen.  Turn off your televisions, get off your ass, get over your ADD and do focus!
Sep 30, 2011
MIck says:
Yes the list is a good start and all sounds true, but please get a real editor to tighten it up. To be taken seriously it needs to read properly.  Thanks a bunch y’all!
Sep 30, 2011
Stacy says:
If you’ve got a problem with the document, offer your services as editor. Don’t sit on the sidelines and nitpick.
ifthenwhy: Let them eat cake, right?
Sep 30, 2011
jane rudden says:
good Start!!!!!!!!!!
A little editing might help…but like others have said its all true!!!!!!!!!...
Ignore the detractors… what you are doing is awesome and you got the Transit workers, Cornell West, Frances Fox Piven and more and more each day.
Sweet dreams protestors!!!!!!!!!! Sleep wewll and fight another day
Sep 30, 2011
obelisk says:
I like it, and I don’t necessarily disagree with any of the allegations. But I found it interesting how well they sidestep the question of who “THEY” are. They make a vague reference to corporations early on, but that’s about as specific as it gets.
Still, I am very interested in seeing where this all goes.
Sep 30, 2011
Cowicide says:
@ifthenwhy
Let’s see YOUR LIST.  Oh, you don’t have one?  Ineffectual twat.
Sep 30, 2011
ifthenwhy says:
@Noah
Really… Comparing a rather lazily worded anti-corporate rant that looks (at it’s very best) to be cut and pasted from AdBusters to the (wait for it) US Declaration of Independence?
Sorry, and I have many a grievance with our current form of crony Capitalism, but this silliness is just another act in summer stock protest theatre.
All we really need is the filth covered “anarcho-syndicalist commune” from Monty Python Holy Grail screaming “SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!” over and over again.
Feh. And Radiohead didn’t even play the damn thing. Useless!
Sep 30, 2011
Phillip Dalriada says:
I fear for the lack of focus.  I don’t want this movement to turn into something like the teaparty where people are justing chucking random idealogical statements into the fold like trying to mix pro life messages with tax cuts and all other assorted redneck shit you find at a teabagger gathering.
The message should just stick to corruption, fraud, and unethical behavior and flaws of the banking system.
Oct 01, 2011
Marc Campbell says:
I align myself with the OWS movement.
I have a problem with
“They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.”
Whose keeping young people from educating themselves? Fuck the institutions of learning. Pick up a book and start reading. Travel. Talk to people older than you who have some life experience. Go to a museum. Watch some documentary films. Surf the Internet. Who needs to go to college when there is so much information at your disposal.
And education is NOT a human right. You have the choice to remain stupid and no one owes you an education.
Make friends with an unemployed teacher.
Training is another thing entirely. I want my doctor, mechanic and webmaster to be well-trained.
Oct 01, 2011
Jason says:
@Lacy
You trace most of the problems described in the list to the government.  But who has the most influence over government decision-making right now?  Corporations or “The People”? 
The act of recognizing corporations as individuals has distorted the political process.  Now instead of appealing to the human individuals they govern, government officials are far more beholden to the superhumans pumping billions of dollars into what equates to a political industry.
The members of our government sell their power to corporations.  The corporations use it to govern us.  They make the decisions.
Don’t blame the puppet, blame the hand.
Oct 01, 2011
Nat Raha says:
here here! unite! occupy!
Oct 01, 2011
JC says:
This is hilarious. You guys have grown up in a country that has prospered and been able to sustain the freedoms, like free speech and the right to peacefully assemble, because of our economic and military might.
You people really are a waste of oxygen. Don’t worry, the rest of America will continue to work hard everyday, all while you guys complain about any and everything instead of seeking real solutions to your problems.
Oct 01, 2011
JO says:
@ JC, this country is very different from where it was in the haydays. I dont know how many big cities you have visited, but there is extreme poverty and government supported drug addiction. In Florida doctors just give prescriptions away like candy. No laws are made, bc the govt is in bed with the pharmaceutical companies. There is some truth to your statement, but the truth is that the rich control the country and the laws being passed. Maybe your old, or live in a small city or town and dont know it. But get with the program. And by the way many of us have seen our parents and grandparents work their entire life for the govt to leave them hanging. So just so you know many of us work, but more importantly we want this for our parents. So maybe you individually were not affected but as whole, our country is in deep trouble. Its not complaining when we see our possible future. Did you vote for GWB? Because we knew, Micheal Moore knew, people knew that if he was elected this would happen. Not only that, don’t you know that it has been public, that they through away peoples votes, this has made it to the senate floor..They rigged the election!! There is a difference between complaining and making a stand for whats right. Not to mention (assh*le) your probably older and cynical, but When Its time for me to retire, there will probably not even be social security.
Even rappers like Immortal technique predicted this stuff. So where your mind is, actually makes me feel a little disturbed. The media controls what you think.
SO seriously wake up.
Oct 01, 2011
Mike says:
No JC, I will continue to work hard everyday at my job and also lend myself to this cause of standing up for the 99%, which includes you. Now get back to your job.
Oct 01, 2011
Bob says:
Make all the cynical comments you want. THey serve only to cover the horrible reality that this list exposes.  They are trying to save our country, our world and the Earth. Support them.
Oct 01, 2011
JO says:
Hey JC…can you explain why the govt gave leahman brothers 187,000,000,000$. thats 187 BILLION..
Oct 01, 2011
Lacy says:
@JO, or anyone, I’m still not clear on how it is the financial industry’s fault when it is the government officials who have the last say in the way government money is spent?
I completely agree that there are serious moral and legal concerns with some business owners who feel they are entitled to public money, and I sure wouldn’t want to be friends with people who were so comfortable accepting such handouts, nor would I want to own a company that accepted such handouts, but I can’t get my head around why it is their fault entirely?  Isn’t the person in government who is not strong enough to say no to the bribes and pressures of the public equally as weak and depraved and deserving of blame?
Oct 01, 2011
HADEZ says:
hey lacy! it is the government, but with citizen’s united(Supreme Court decision) we get the government corporations want NOT the government the people need
Oct 01, 2011
Isa says:
This is said to be coming from Wall St. yet there is nothing on the Occupywallst.org website…. why is that do you suppose?
Oct 01, 2011
Jawzhellyn says:
i think the people in the protest should have a dress code such as dressing up in a formal suit for the guys and formal dresses for the ladies to confuse cops and to mock the bankers, and everyone in the “corporate professional” field… airline captains aren’t getting any beating b/c of their uniforms, so why not dress up??
Oct 01, 2011
Marc says:
TL;DR
But I’m with you guys!
Oct 01, 2011
Mr. Lee says:
I find this to be a bit more cohesive: http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2011/09/26/submitted-to-occupywallstreet-for-consideration-new-and-improved-messaging/
Oct 01, 2011
Christopher says:
Stop The persecution of my people by the republican party !! No more election victories for republicans on the backs of Gay Americans !!!
Oct 01, 2011
Jenn Pedde says:
These aren’t “Demands”  these are “grievances”  and while it’s nice to know why these fine people are protesting and taking the brooklyn bridge right now—what in the world do they want?  Who are they targeting this stuff to?  Republicans?  All politicians?  The president? Bankers?  Corporations?  I mean, even all these celebrities are coming out and saying they want to be taxed more (Russell Simmons did this week), but this whole thing seems so ... lacking in actual goals and action plans and a targeted audience. Why aren’t people THIS passionate about voting?  Or running for office and making change from within? We’ve been doing this stuff to ourselves for the last 20 years.
Oct 01, 2011
clayton says:
Remember reading about a time when these people would have hung for treason? Now they just get to keep doing it to people all over the world. It’s time for a revolution.
Oct 01, 2011
Outraged says:
Animal Rights
Affirmative Action
Organic Food  
These issues are not root causes of today’s economic crisis.  I write this as someone who believes in equality, likes animals, and eats mainly organic food.  Why are these 3 items at the top of the list (in the top 5)?
I wager that if spies for the 1% had infiltrated OWS, they would have put those three demands at the top.
Oct 01, 2011
Nancy Cyrus says:
To quote a old film we must rasie up our voices and say i,m mad as hell and i,m not gonna take it anymore…...........
Oct 01, 2011
Ralph says:
Everyone is welcome to edit the collaborative online American People’s Charter for Change, inspired by OWS and started yesterday, at http://bit.ly/pg5PN7
It’s a public Google doc
Crowdsource the demands of the Occupation
Oct 01, 2011
Tim Rue says:
For those who think the document needs editing, I invite you to google the Declaration of Independence Images (of th ereal document) AND READ IT!.
Oct 01, 2011
shad says:
It seems those who 1) thought this too wordy and 2) had too many issues, are those who 1)can’t handle more than a Fox soundbyte and 2) are unable to wrap their heads around the interconnected issues. This is actually pretty well written considering the collective nature of the debate.
Oct 01, 2011
Pishab says:
Interesting and highly contradictory statement.  I think it would hold much more power if, like your demands, you disclosed who was funding your movement.
Oct 01, 2011
bob says:
There is finally the tiniest chance to change the world we live in and people are dismissing it as if they are watching American Idol and the next shitty singer is about to pop up on the TV any minute. If you want to improve upon the document it is right there for you to fix.
If you think this is poorly written, you should see the second Amendment. How many times has that been argued over?
Oct 01, 2011
CoupMediagroup says:
Please see the voting to participate in the democracy formed by the #occupy movements and the Soveriegn peoples movement. http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occupy-wall-street-official-demands-2009
Oct 01, 2011
judson says:
Wouldn’t it be fun to see who was actually posting these “negative” responses. My guess is things are not what they appear to be.
Yahoo was already caught censoring emails on OccupyWallstreet. My guess is thats the tip of the iceberg as far as “perception management” goes.
Oct 01, 2011
Carol NYC says:
THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN!!
Oct 01, 2011
Marshall Getto says:
We must force a national conversation about basic fairness in all public and corporate policies and regulations.
Santa Barbara is with you! We love what you are doing! Please keep it up.
You are all heroes and I love each of you.
Oct 01, 2011
Carol NYC says:
They have supported and financed misogyny and rape culture.
Oct 01, 2011
Larry says:
Hope this is a work in progress and you all remain patient and let natural leadership within your group rise, refine and define your goals.  Good start! You have a lot of folks that want too be on your team and show that this is what tea party folks are scared shitless of .  You have our attention !!
Oct 01, 2011
John Bogosity says:
Free Pvt. Bradley Manning!!!
Oct 01, 2011
Matt says:
Who the hell is “They”?  They sound like some sort of evil super villain.
Oct 01, 2011
Tim Rue says:
let it be understood that there are no leaders, only organized structure for the purpose of optimizing teamwork benefits shared by the team of the 99%
Oct 01, 2011
Peter says:
there are some great demands in here, like better food quality, but it seems that most of these demands are not the fault of corporations, but of the government. and when they are the fault of corporations, it’s usually a very small percentage of them. 
there are great corporations out there, like Tesla, who are successfully selling green automobiles - don’t you want them in business?
and let’s not forget that corporations by definition are creating jobs for us right now, and if we don’t like a particular corporation, no one is forcing us to work their or buy their products.
Oct 01, 2011
Larry says:
Here here for organized structure !! Mr. Hue
Oct 01, 2011
Wayne Grantham says:
This is insane. Every one of the ills cited are caused by government, not Wall Street.
The success of the leaders of this cult would have us living in caves and earth floor mud huts, to the ripe old age of maybe thirty.
Oct 01, 2011
Edmond V. O. Katusz says:
“Oct 01, 2011 JC says:
This is hilarious. You guys have grown up in a country that has prospered and been able to sustain the freedoms, like free speech and the right to peacefully assemble, because of our economic and military might.”
This is indeed hilarious as the rest of the world have been feeling that “economic and military might” as tough deadly love. Starting so to say with the Dutch in New Amsterdam murdering the Wapingers and later subverting the Kingdom of Hawaii. Now letting private armies “prosper” in the (Middle) East
BTW What do you mean “prospered”? All built on bubbles as you can see right now!
Oct 01, 2011
CoupMediagroup says:
Just curious as to where the other 99% of the country (all part of the 99%) can have their voice heard? http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occupy-wall-street-official-demands-2009
Oct 01, 2011
lori says:
“They” are corporations and banks such as Enron, Halliburton, Goldman Sachs, Blackwater, Bank of America, Author Daniels Midland, AT&T, and the list goes on and on. These are the ones that really rule the world and it stops now!!!
Oct 01, 2011
Ian Clark says:
Gimme a friggen break, you are either for or against. I am for.
Oct 01, 2011
smithmillcreek says:
You can find this statement formatted and ready to hand out at http://bitly.com/CanWeYes
Oct 01, 2011
jessegirl says:
We need to break this down to a simple message, 3 things:
1 - amend Citizens United and get the money out of our political system
2 - Regulate Wall Street so they can no longer gamble with tax payer money
3 - Regulate corporations so they can not destroy our planet for profit
I’m fully supportive of OccupyWallStreet, but you need to get a simple clear message that people can understand.  Break it down to the basics, get these things fixed and then we can solve the rest of it!
Oct 01, 2011
Flaming Telepath says:
@Wayne Grantham
“This is insane. Every one of the ills cited are caused by government, not Wall Street.”
I fail to see the distinction anymore.
Oct 01, 2011
Tim Rue says:
@Peter, productive honest business is not the problem. If you think the protesters do not include such people, you are mistaken. It the rest which is a problem and this includes those who are in the business of devaluing the worth of people and what they produce via wrongful control and manipulation of the value representing but abstract tool called money. There is a great deal of evidence of such wrongs having happened along with suppression of technology, including energy and medicine. there is also a great waste of resources in man power, knowledge and natural resources via the military industrial complex which is comprised of GOVcorps, as we have identified politician connections to corporate interest in various fields.
Oct 01, 2011
john says:
ignore my point restate yours
Oct 01, 2011
TurboKitty says:
At last count, which was yesterday, over 500,000 people were occupying Wall St and their numbers grow every day. This is an occupation not just a protest march. People from D.C. are joining them on October 6th. There are other protests and occupations around the world to support the occupation of Wall St. This is what Freedom and Democracy looks like and I support this with every ounce of my being.
Oct 01, 2011
lori says:
Some are saying the the problems listed above are caused by government not corporations. The fact is that corporations use our government, in some cases helping to right the laws that favor their bottom lines at the expense of
the rest of us. What do u think lobbyists do? They buy influence over our elected officials. if u ask me, we live and in a facsist state, because government and corporations are intertwined and as a result our standard of living on going down.
Oct 01, 2011
Lilly says:
How many of these snarky critics posting work at Wall Street firms?
The document sums up the anger in the US, run with it.

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