The Separation between State and Religion

In time we will realize that Democracy is the entitlement of individuals to every right that was in its times alloted to kings. The right to speak and decide, to be treated with decency, to serve and be served by people in a State of “love” that is, to serve with one’s work for the development of ‘life’. To belong to the Kingdom of Human Beings without racial, national, social or academic separations. To love and be loved. To die at the service of the whole and be honored in one’s death, for one’s life and work was legitimately valued. To be graceful and grateful. To have the pride and the humility of being One with the Universe, One with every realm of Existence, One with every living and deceased soul. To treat with dignity and be treated with dignity for One is dignified together with All others and Life itself. To walk the path of compassion, not in the sorrow of guilt but in the pride of being. To take responsability for one’s mistakes and sufferings and stand up again and again like a hero and a heroine and face the struggle that is put at one’s feet and in one’s hands. Millions of people, millions and millions of people might take many generations to realize the consciousness of our humaneness but there is no other dignified path for the human being.

The “work” as I conceive it is psychological and political. Psychology is the connection between the different dimensions within one’s self and Politics is the actualization of that consciousness in our practical lives. Religion is the ceremony that binds the connectedness between the individual and the Universe. The separation between religion, politics and science, the arts and sports is, in the sphere of the social, the reflection of the schizophrenia within the individual and the masses. The dialogue between individuality and the "human" belongs to consciousness. The tendency to develop cults resides in the shortcomings we’are finding in life as it is structured today. “Life” has become the private property of a few priviledged who cannot profit from it because as soon as it is appropriated it stops to be “life” or “life-giving”.

We are all the victims of our own invention and each one is called upon to find solutions. The only problem is believing our selves incapable of finding them. We are now free to use all Systems of knowledge objectively, sharing them without imposing our will on each other. To become objective about our lives means to understand that the institutions that govern its experience are critically important. That we are one with the governments, one with the religious activities that mark its pace, that the arena’s in which we move our bodies and the laboratories in which we explore our possibilities are ALL part and parcel of our own personal responsibility. That WE ARE ONE WITH EACH OTHER AND EVERYTHING AROUND US and acknowledge for ourselves a bond of love in conscious responsibility. That we human beings know ourselves part of each other and are willing and able to act on our behalf for the benefit of each and every individual. That we no longer allow governments, industries, universities or any other institution to run along unchecked by the objective principles of humaneness. That we do not allow gurus to abuse their power or governors to steal the taxes and use them to their personal advantage in detriment of the whole. That we do not allow abuse from anyone anywhere because life is too beautiful to do so and that we are willing to stop the rampant crime with the necessary compassion Conscious knowledge is every individual's right. Conscious action is every individual's duty.

Monday 2 August 2010

Apprentice Shepherd 2



38. apprentice shepherd - August 1, 





Elena very interesting observations on your actual job. So permit me to dissent only to the last part:”it is fundamentally important to share our experiences not to show off how far we reached, which at least in my case is incipient to what is possible, but because other generations will profit from our information.”
I am not enough in confidence with you
to write what i really etiquette this statement:
“nonsense” i ‘hope you could accept without take offence :-)
The only profit other generation shall get is how much WE ourself profit from the information from experience,that is how much “knowledge “( your words ,now mine too for consciousness) actually writing and reading we ..get.. (sometimes i use the word steal,but that for another time). I apologize, but with people that have another word in her world ( suicide) the meaning of (last) will
scare me ! Italian is testamento that is the same that the Bibble books the covenant God Man (for a better world).
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39. apprentice shepherd - August 1, 2010





Hey i was trying to listen to Chomsky in religion you posted,but i cannot because his tune bring me in mind the Criminology expert of Rocky horror picture show:/time 1,06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_jzsWofTY4&feature=related

so i have to see the scene so i missed him.
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40. Elena - August 1, 2010 You are crazy apprentice shepherd and a lot of fun and it’s O.K. now if we disagree, but before I was too vulnerable to bear anyone disagreeing with the little that was holding me up!





I don’t know what you’re saying about suicide. My mother committed suicide when I was almost nine years old and I tried to when I was 27, that is 25 years ago. The whole of my biography was marked by that, simply trying to overcome the impulse because once people try it is very difficult to stop them from finally managing. I’m nowhere close to that state now and overcoming the Fellowship was only half as difficult as overcoming that!
Life was never more beautiful than it is now!
I’d like you to look at the work I’ve been doing in the past few months. I should open a shop to sell my lamps and sculptures one of these days! You can look at them at:
I put them in up in my Rio Cedro site in photos 2 because I don’t know how to set up a new page yet but that’ll come.
Keep up your good humor, I can do with a lot of it!



42. apprentice shepherd - August 2, 2010





It looks to me that “personality” for Steiner it is “individuality” in G words.
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43. Elena - August 2, 2010 





True personality you mean? His whole system in my opinion is so very similar to the work if one is willing to understand them both. I do believe Steiner went much further than Gurdjieff, Ouspensky or Collin to apply the knowledge to life but their synthesis is of immense value even to understand Steiner who did exactly the opposite of what they did: expand on the system practically without giving a simple easy synthesis as they did. That’s awfully unfair because they did expand minutely in terms of inner processes which Steiner didn’t but Steiner expanded beautifully in agriculture, medicine, education, etc.
In Steiner it’s as if each of his ramifications in agriculture, dance, medicine etc were the extended dimensions of each center while in Rodney Collin what we have is the understanding of laws that can apply to every sphere.
They are all so wonderful and necessary! It’s interesting that both still develop cults and descending processes but that is also a law is it not?
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