The Separation between State and Religion

In time we will realize that Democracy is the entitlement of individuals to every right that was in its times alloted to kings. The right to speak and decide, to be treated with decency, to serve and be served by people in a State of “love” that is, to serve with one’s work for the development of ‘life’. To belong to the Kingdom of Human Beings without racial, national, social or academic separations. To love and be loved. To die at the service of the whole and be honored in one’s death, for one’s life and work was legitimately valued. To be graceful and grateful. To have the pride and the humility of being One with the Universe, One with every realm of Existence, One with every living and deceased soul. To treat with dignity and be treated with dignity for One is dignified together with All others and Life itself. To walk the path of compassion, not in the sorrow of guilt but in the pride of being. To take responsability for one’s mistakes and sufferings and stand up again and again like a hero and a heroine and face the struggle that is put at one’s feet and in one’s hands. Millions of people, millions and millions of people might take many generations to realize the consciousness of our humaneness but there is no other dignified path for the human being.

The “work” as I conceive it is psychological and political. Psychology is the connection between the different dimensions within one’s self and Politics is the actualization of that consciousness in our practical lives. Religion is the ceremony that binds the connectedness between the individual and the Universe. The separation between religion, politics and science, the arts and sports is, in the sphere of the social, the reflection of the schizophrenia within the individual and the masses. The dialogue between individuality and the "human" belongs to consciousness. The tendency to develop cults resides in the shortcomings we’are finding in life as it is structured today. “Life” has become the private property of a few priviledged who cannot profit from it because as soon as it is appropriated it stops to be “life” or “life-giving”.

We are all the victims of our own invention and each one is called upon to find solutions. The only problem is believing our selves incapable of finding them. We are now free to use all Systems of knowledge objectively, sharing them without imposing our will on each other. To become objective about our lives means to understand that the institutions that govern its experience are critically important. That we are one with the governments, one with the religious activities that mark its pace, that the arena’s in which we move our bodies and the laboratories in which we explore our possibilities are ALL part and parcel of our own personal responsibility. That WE ARE ONE WITH EACH OTHER AND EVERYTHING AROUND US and acknowledge for ourselves a bond of love in conscious responsibility. That we human beings know ourselves part of each other and are willing and able to act on our behalf for the benefit of each and every individual. That we no longer allow governments, industries, universities or any other institution to run along unchecked by the objective principles of humaneness. That we do not allow gurus to abuse their power or governors to steal the taxes and use them to their personal advantage in detriment of the whole. That we do not allow abuse from anyone anywhere because life is too beautiful to do so and that we are willing to stop the rampant crime with the necessary compassion Conscious knowledge is every individual's right. Conscious action is every individual's duty.

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Sunday, 2 May 2010

Elena as moderator!!



38. Elena - May 2, 2010 [Edit]




Since we don’t have another moderator here and I have to play both roles let me play the moderator role as mediator in this conversations.
As moderator of this blog could I ask you Ton what is the purpose of your participation here? What is your aim if any?
Are you here as a friend?
How would you be expressing friendship in your discourse?
Are you here as an fofblog representative?
As a male whose gender has been attacked forcefully by Elena in the fofblog due to the role they’ve played inside and outside the fofcult?
As a male who is trying to sort out his relationship with women and is projecting his difficulties on Elena?
Do you have an interest in dialogue? What is dialogue to you?
It seems that your only aim here is to prove Elena wrong. Could you share what is constructive about that from your point of view?
There is a lot of material here that does not concern Elena’s personal condition that you seem to avoid consistently. Are you unable to reach out of the personal sphere in a conversation or is this a particular aim that you have, to remain in the personal sphere and if that is the case, would you share why you think it is the only constructive sphere of your participation?
Do you remain in the sphere of the personal because that is your aim or because you are unable to move out of it?
I would invite you to choose any subject that you like and try to talk about it without references to your personalities, that is yours and Elena’s and see if that could help you both get out of the identification with each other.
In that identification you are both expressing an emotional binding but it is acting against the possibility of friendship. Could you both try to relate to each other through the subject themselves rather than the personalities themselves?
Elena, would you not address Ton or speak about Ton in any little way in your posts so that he doesn’t feel like the cat is trying to bite him again? Every time you do that you are expressing the pain that is still alive from the experience of being banned and Ton not acknowledging it and every time Ton uses that to refer to you as the poor victim, unwilling to acknowledge that you have in fact been banned. This vicious circle in which you are both in is in fact vicious.
We can accept both of your positions, that is, that Elena is hurt and doesn’t agree with being banned and that Ton thinks Elena is deranged and deserves to get banned. We can accept that and move on.
As a moderator and in the hope that the conversation can move on and open other venues of exploration, I would appreciate it if you both stop reigniting the vicious circle.
Thank you for your participation!


If you like the role of moderator, you’re also welcome to play it!!
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