The Separation between State and Religion

In time we will realize that Democracy is the entitlement of individuals to every right that was in its times alloted to kings. The right to speak and decide, to be treated with decency, to serve and be served by people in a State of “love” that is, to serve with one’s work for the development of ‘life’. To belong to the Kingdom of Human Beings without racial, national, social or academic separations. To love and be loved. To die at the service of the whole and be honored in one’s death, for one’s life and work was legitimately valued. To be graceful and grateful. To have the pride and the humility of being One with the Universe, One with every realm of Existence, One with every living and deceased soul. To treat with dignity and be treated with dignity for One is dignified together with All others and Life itself. To walk the path of compassion, not in the sorrow of guilt but in the pride of being. To take responsability for one’s mistakes and sufferings and stand up again and again like a hero and a heroine and face the struggle that is put at one’s feet and in one’s hands. Millions of people, millions and millions of people might take many generations to realize the consciousness of our humaneness but there is no other dignified path for the human being.

The “work” as I conceive it is psychological and political. Psychology is the connection between the different dimensions within one’s self and Politics is the actualization of that consciousness in our practical lives. Religion is the ceremony that binds the connectedness between the individual and the Universe. The separation between religion, politics and science, the arts and sports is, in the sphere of the social, the reflection of the schizophrenia within the individual and the masses. The dialogue between individuality and the "human" belongs to consciousness. The tendency to develop cults resides in the shortcomings we’are finding in life as it is structured today. “Life” has become the private property of a few priviledged who cannot profit from it because as soon as it is appropriated it stops to be “life” or “life-giving”.

We are all the victims of our own invention and each one is called upon to find solutions. The only problem is believing our selves incapable of finding them. We are now free to use all Systems of knowledge objectively, sharing them without imposing our will on each other. To become objective about our lives means to understand that the institutions that govern its experience are critically important. That we are one with the governments, one with the religious activities that mark its pace, that the arena’s in which we move our bodies and the laboratories in which we explore our possibilities are ALL part and parcel of our own personal responsibility. That WE ARE ONE WITH EACH OTHER AND EVERYTHING AROUND US and acknowledge for ourselves a bond of love in conscious responsibility. That we human beings know ourselves part of each other and are willing and able to act on our behalf for the benefit of each and every individual. That we no longer allow governments, industries, universities or any other institution to run along unchecked by the objective principles of humaneness. That we do not allow gurus to abuse their power or governors to steal the taxes and use them to their personal advantage in detriment of the whole. That we do not allow abuse from anyone anywhere because life is too beautiful to do so and that we are willing to stop the rampant crime with the necessary compassion Conscious knowledge is every individual's right. Conscious action is every individual's duty.

Friday, 6 August 2010

Apprentice Shepherd and Elena




43. apprentice shepherd - August 2, 2010

It looks to me that “personality” for Steiner it is “individuality” in G words.
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44. Elena - August 2, 2010

True personality you mean? His whole system in my opinion is so very similar to the work if one is willing to understand them both. I do believe Steiner went much further than Gurdjieff, Ouspensky or Collin to apply the knowledge to life but their synthesis is of immense value even to understand Steiner who did exactly the opposite of what they did: expand on the system practically without giving a simple easy synthesis as they did. That’s awfully unfair because they did expand minutely in terms of inner processes which Steiner didn’t but Steiner expanded beautifully in agriculture, medicine, education, etc.
In Steiner it’s as if each of his ramifications in agriculture, dance, medicine etc were the extended dimensions of each center while in Rodney Collin what we have is the understanding of laws that can apply to every sphere.
They are all so wonderful and necessary! It’s interesting that both still develop cults and descending processes but that is also a law is it not?
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45. apprentice shepherd - August 5, 2010


46. apprentice shepherd - August 5, 2010

Yes, i mean true one-
Steiner developed a cult ?
I read S many years ago (Theory ìf colours and Agriculture) and liked so much that things has a meaning connected to his form(the horn of a cow, a yellow pear from Jupiter etc)
What i not bought was the theosophy story of the world (saturn moon etc) but was so complex that i not go deeper.
I liked story about Jesus too-
Now i have read a book from an Italian (Augusto Timperanza: the seven key of the path, “Le 7chiavi del sentiero”. He studied with Thomasson then found some fanatical in the group and studied Steiner.
When i find time i shall translate(ahi ahi)some interesting thoughts of him
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47. Elena - August 5, 2010

Sounds good, if you have them in your computer and wish to put them in Italian I might be game for it if you put one at a time!
Yes, the theosophy story of the world is pretty exotic but not more than Gurdjieff’s Belzebub. I do think other dimensions get that exotic in relation to what we are used to. What I liked about the theosophy story is that when looked at carefully, it does fit with the rest of his theory and it is not far from the theory of worlds if one wishes to adapt it. The “fragments” of the system don’t really expand on what all those worlds are about but I Steiner goes all the way to the roots and when the theories are practically applied in medicine, agriculture, nutrition and so many of the sciences people are delving into there’s beautiful coherence in them all. I find that tremendously exiting and even more so when, knowing Gurdjieff’s system it equally fits.
Sometimes I think that the value of all this systems is that, even if they were all just made up stories to give us a hint of what it’s like, they, like fairy tales, end up giving us a very good view of what the inner world of matter is like. I don’t think of matter and the spiritual as two opposite sides but rather as two, equally necessary sides of the same coin and more in terms of root and flower in one plant than even two sides of the same coin. If we water the plant out here the beautiful flower will give strong seeds to the following generation! You might think those “generations” are nonsense again but it’s good to disagree and still share.
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